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artimies6:
hey tumblr nerds, if you’re a Christian with same-sex attraction, you believe it’s unbiblical, and you want some help turning that struggle over to the Lord, we’ve got a discord server for you!
myself and @gods-little-punk are currently moderating this support group server and we’re excited to help you grow in your faith!! we’ve both struggled with this particular temptation and we’d love to have you join us for some fellowship and scripture study! currently we’re planning on doing focused Bible studies on occasion, when there’s a need, desire, or opportunity for it, so bring your open hearts and open Bibles and we’ll all reach into His Word together!
Due to the risk of trolls causing trouble, I’m not going to put an invite link in this post - please message myself or @gods-little-punk for a temporary invite. As time progresses, other people will probably be able to give you links as well, especially if the volume of people asking gets high. when that comes around, i’ll edit this post with their names.
on that note, please understand - this is a support group, not a debate club. we’re looking to help people who hold a narrow view of biblical marriage become more informed and build a community of believers who can support one another. we’re not overly strict about other doctrinal issues, but rest assured we’re not going to host debates as to whether Jesus was the Christ or other obviously heretical things, for instance.
If you’re not dealing with this particular difficulty but still want to reach people who do, feel free to pass this invitation on to your followers.
Hi, y'know the reason it’s called self-loathing is because you’re supposed to keep it to yourself
Alright, I don’t have anything to say specifically to the two people who responded to this, so this is basically just a follow-up to my own reblog.
Look, my response was snarky, and maybe it shouldn’t have been. On some level I empathize with the creators of this group. I used to be religious, and one of the most difficult things about coming to terms with my sexuality was feeling like my very existence defied God. I was a 12 year old child, mind you. I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemy.
I understand that it’s not up to me to tell you how to live your life. The way I feel about gay conversion therapy (and that is what this is) is the same way I feel about suicide. I don’t encourage it. I don’t think it’s good for anyone. But I think adults should be allowed to make the choice for themselves.
But this isn’t just about you. You’re not just hurting yourself. This group will attract scared, confused, vulnerable people. People who feel that their very existence defies God. Maybe people as young as 12 years old. Maybe younger.
And you’ll tell them that their worst fears about themselves are true. You’ll couch it in feelgoodisms about how God doesn’t really hate anyone, and Jesus saves all sinners, but anyone who has experience with depression knows that the negative voices scream the loudest. Best-case scenario, they leave the group, and they get some real help, before any irreversible damage is done. But it likely won’t go so nicely. Life isn’t that kind.
The sixth commandment says “thou shalt not kill.” And if there is a God, He’ll judge you for whatever you do to the people who think you can save them.
Hi neigbor - I’m sorry if we’re concerning you.
Suffice it
to say, nothing we’re doing is intended to push our beliefs on people,
nor are we trying to convice people to resent themselves! I personally
am bisexual, but I don’t believe that getting into a relationship with
another man would be biblical - for exactly the same reasons that I
believe having sex before marriage with anyone would be
unbiblical. After all, marriage is a picture of how Christ loves us
Christians - it’s a special thing and it’s worth doing it right.
Now, it breaks my heart to hear that someone made you feel like your very existence was somehow wrong! That couldn’t be farther from the truth - you were made in God’s image! And it’s just as possible for you to be saved as anyone else.
I can’t agree with you when you say what we’re doing is wrong. I am willing to defend biblical marriage as better and healthier than what the world holds up as good. Please, if it is at all possible, let me reassure you of our intentions. My inbox and messages are always open.
There is a major cognitive disconnect between saying “Nothing we’re doing is intended to push our beliefs on people” and “It’s just as possible for you to be saved as anyone else.”
The other thing that really disturbs me is the line “A narrow view of Biblical marriage.”
In my experience, “Biblical marriage” is healthy only for naturally dominant men and naturally submissive women for whom its constraints fit with who they are.
For everyone else it is unhealthy.
Now, your idea of Biblical marriage may not be “The man is in charge, makes all the money, rules over his family, gets to decide when sex happens. The woman raises the (mandatory) children and does as she’s told” but that is what that line invokes for me.
Are you taking steps to keep minors off this server? Apart from anything else, it is illegal to knowingly provide religious instruction, which this is, to minors without the consent of their parents.
That’s my biggest concern. That you will be telling kids “You need to hate and shut off this part of yourself and lie and pretend and maybe marry somebody you can’t love and stay with them forever or you’re not saved.:
If adults want to treat themselves like that, that’s their call…it’s not remotely healthy.
I’m not Christian, but the new commandment is “Love thy neighbor as thou loves thyself.”
Do you, Artimies, truly love yourself? Because that means loving all of yourself.
Who you are is not a temptation. It’s not something God did to make things unfairly hard for you.
Who you are is worthy of love without having to “struggle.” Every bit of you is worthy of love.
And you can’t love your neighbor without truly, unconditionally, loving yourself.
Hey, I haven’t had enough coffee yet, so I am going to try to keep this is as simple as I can. I am a Christian. I am bisexual. Telling people that “biblical marriage” is the only true marriage is absolute and total horse shit. Using the vulnerability of people who are struggling with their identities as a way to divide them from the divine while telling them that you are doing it out of love and faith is deeply wrong and hurtful. That is neither love, faith nor grace.
There are a lot of Christian denominations that will accept you wholeheartedly without asking you to give up who you are or to warp your faith. I’m not saying that the only one of those is Episcopalian, it’s just the denomination that I am most familiar with. https://www.episcopalchurch.org/page/lgbt-church
